From: Gerald Fisher

Sent: Thu Sep 30 11:16:27 2021

To: 'Steve Donovan'

Subject: RE: Transportation SDCs

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Thanks Steve.

Regards,

Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works Director

City of Molalla

117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038

Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 503.759.0218

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From: Steve Donovan <steve.donovan@donovan-enterprises.com>

Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 11:10 AM

To: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: FW: Transportation SDCs

From: Steve Donovan

Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:31 AM

To: Dan Huff <dhuff@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: RE: Transportation SDCs

We can talk about water at your convenience. With regard to your transportation SDC issue, your adopted methodology does give credits for diverted/linked and pass-by trips. I am finishing up a SDC methodology update for the City of Willamina and we used PM peak hour trips for our unit of demand. Here are the ITE manual (version 10) trip generation characteristics for a Coffee/donut kiosk land use (ITE code 938):

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As you can see, the observed PM peak hour vehicle trips are 83.33. However, this land use is given a 89% credit for pass-by trips yielding a net PMPHVT of 9.71. That is what you should be using for your SDC calculations. If this use is not a kiosk, you may want to look at ITE codes 936 or 937.

From: Dan Huff <dhuff@cityofmolalla.com>

Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:17 AM

To: Steve Donovan <steve.donovan@donovan-enterprises.com>

Subject: FW: Transportation SDCs

Steve – First, I would like to schedule a conversation about getting the water component back on track. Second, I was hoping to chat with you about the simple transportation SDC analysis below and get your opinion. I can fill you in on the reasoning and purpose later.

Dan Huff

City Manager

City of Molalla, Oregon

(503)829-6855

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From: Mac Corthell <mcorthell@cityofmolalla.com>

Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:10 AM

To: Dan Huff <dhuff@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: FW: Transportation SDCs

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City of Molalla

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From: Andy Peters <apeters@cityofmolalla.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 10:55 PM

To: Mac Corthell <mcorthell@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: Fwd: Transportation SDCs

After a tiny bit of research tonight I'm quite positive this is correct. We are suppose to reduce PM peak hour trips by the percent of pass-by trips listed in Table b-9 for the type of land use. Every other city does so. The number G is using would be what an engineer uses to, say, size the drive through itself, for which EVERY trip is fundamentaly NEW. I might recommend PW be asked to confirm with Dyer and Donovan, and double check the impact this has had if it turns out to be an error. Not trying to stir the pot. Hope this helps.

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From: Andy Peters <apeters@cityofmolalla.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 5:48:32 PM

To: Mac Corthell <mcorthell@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: Transportation SDCs

Mac,

An observation on the $1.8 million sticker shock for a coffee shop Transportation SDCs:

  1. 1. A Coffee/Donut shop with Drive through and no indoor seating (ITE code 938) generates 83.33 trips per unit (1000 SF gross floor area) at the PM Peak hour (the ITE 10th Edition).

 

  1. 2. If the coffee shop is 2140sf, at our Resolution 2021-17 rate of $9306/PM Peak Hour Trip, the SDC comes to $1,659,503, which is sticker shock...

 

  1. 3. But pass-by vehicle percentage for this kind of coffee shop is 83% in the ITE Trip Generation Handbook, 3rd edition. No one get’s in their car from home and comes to the drive thru coffee shop as a destination, most of them are already on the road. You can see this done in other traffic studies, say, for a Star Bucks that has gone in recently somewhere. Only 14 of the 83 trips are actually capacity increasing.

 

  1. 4. Are we allowed to charge Transportation SDCs without backing the passthrough trips from the PMPH figure? I wonder if that might be double charging everyone, because didn’t the last business that went in already pay the SDC for the NEW trips that then become passthrough trips for the coffee shop? I wonder if Donovan’s rate study assumes that passthrough trips are backed out, but we are misunderstanding the rate we set in the resolution? And that’s why there is crazy sticker shock?

 

Again, thoughts only. I would have talk with some people to understand more.

Respectfully,

Andy Peters

City of Molalla

Public Works Operations Supervisor

(503) 829-6855 x220

Cell: 503-793-0507

apeters@cityofmolalla.com

117 N Molalla Ave

Molalla, OR 97038