Yes, our plan should meet that standard. Signs were ordered this afternoon.
Thanks,
Andy Peters
City of Molalla
Public Works Operations Supervisor
(503) 829-6855 x220
Cell: 503-793-0507
117 N Molalla Ave
Molalla, OR 97038
From: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:34 PM
To: Andy Peters <apeters@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: RE: Island signs
Here are the rules.
Section 2B.32 Keep Right and Keep Left Signs (R4-7, R4-8)
Option:
The Keep Right (R4-7) sign (see Figure 2B-10) may be used at locations where it is necessary for traffic to pass only to the right-hand side of a roadway feature or obstruction. The Keep Left (R4-8) sign (see Figure 2B-10) may be used at locations where it is necessary for traffic to pass only to the left-hand side of a roadway feature or obstruction.
Guidance:
At locations where it is not readily apparent that traffic is required to keep to the right, a Keep Right sign should be used.
If used, the Keep Right sign should be installed as close as practical to approach ends of raised medians, parkways, islands, and underpass piers. The sign should be mounted on the face of or just in front of a pier or other obstruction separating opposite directions of traffic in the center of the highway such that traffic will have to pass to the right-hand side of the sign.
Standard:
The Keep Right sign shall not be installed on the right-hand side of the roadway in a position where traffic must pass to the left-hand side of the sign.
Option:
The Keep Right sign may be omitted at intermediate ends of divisional islands and medians.
Word message KEEP RIGHT (LEFT) with an arrow (R4-7a or R4-7b) signs (see Figure 2B-10) may be used instead of the R4-7 or R4-8 symbol signs.
Where the obstruction obscures the Keep Right sign, the minimum placement height may be increased for better sign visibility.
A narrow Keep Right (R4-7c) sign (see Figure 2B-10) may be installed on the approach end of a median island that is less than 4 feet wide at the point where the sign is to be located.
Standard:
A narrow Keep Right (R4-7c) sign shall not be installed on a median island that has a width of 4 feet or more at the point where the sign is to be located.
It needs the keep right signs. Make sure the follow the MUTCD requirements and they will be good. Thanks.
Regards,
Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works Director
City of Molalla
117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038
Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 503.759.0218
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From: Andy Peters [mailto:apeters@cityofmolalla.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 2:44 PM
To: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: FW: Island signs
Gerald, my gut keeps telling me I should check with the Road Master before we actually do this. We are filling a work order to add the following signs on Toliver at Village. Signs are on order, S. Sign will be on a Telespar pole.
Andy
Andy Peters
City of Molalla
Public Works Operations Supervisor
(503) 829-6855 x220
Cell: 503-793-0507
117 N Molalla Ave
Molalla, OR 97038
From: Andy Peters <apeters@cityofmolalla.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 12:56 PM
To: Brenda Reiner <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>
Cc: Adam Shultz <ashultz@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: RE: Island signs
Okay no problem, Just didn’t want to do it wrong.
Adam, see below an image with the plan. Thanks!
Andy Peters
City of Molalla
Public Works Operations Supervisor
(503) 829-6855 x220
Cell: 503-793-0507
117 N Molalla Ave
Molalla, OR 97038
From: Brenda Reiner <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:18 AM
To: Andy Peters <apeters@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: RE: Island signs
Andy,
The reason we are posting these is for safety. Some people are going in on the wrong side. Yes, your diagram is correct.
Thanks,
Brenda Reiner, EIT
Senior Engineering Technician
City of Molalla
117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038
Office: 503.759.0243 I Fax: 503.829.3676
From: Andy Peters [mailto:apeters@cityofmolalla.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 11:10 AM
To: Brenda Reiner <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: FW: Island signs
Okay, so we’ll make it look like this, sound okay? I know the HOA handles this Island. Do you think we will have any problems with them? Or just go ahead and mount them as shown,
Thanks,
Andy
Andy Peters
City of Molalla
Public Works Operations Supervisor
(503) 829-6855 x220
Cell: 503-793-0507
117 N Molalla Ave
Molalla, OR 97038
From: Brenda Reiner <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Andy Peters <apeters@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: RE: Island signs
Andy,
They are placed on the actual island.
Brenda Reiner, EIT
Senior Engineering Technician
City of Molalla
117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038
Office: 503.759.0243 I Fax: 503.829.3676
From: Andy Peters [mailto:apeters@cityofmolalla.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 10:07 AM
To: Brenda Reiner <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: Island signs
Brenda,
WO# 2311 and 2560 are to install “Island” signs somewhere on Village Dr. We aren’t able to figure out where they should go in each direction. Could we get a spot on a map showing us exactly what is needed? I don’t see how we would get a Northbound sign in place that would make sense and provide early warning.
Thanks,
Andy
Andy Peters
City of Molalla
Public Works Operations Supervisor
(503) 829-6855 x220
Cell: 503-793-0507
117 N Molalla Ave
Molalla, OR 97038