From: Gerald Fisher

Sent: Tue May 30 08:38:33 2017

To: Aldo Rodriguez

Subject: FW: Question about fence construction permit and height code

Importance: Normal

 

Call her back.

 

Regards,

 

Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works Director

 

City of Molalla

 

117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038

 

Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 503.759.0218

 

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-----Original Message-----

From: Lori Edwards [mailto:lori_edwards@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:48 PM

To: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: Fw: Question about fence construction permit and height code

 

Hi Gerald,

 

I'm having trouble reaching Aldo. Is there someone else I should try?

 

Thank you,

 

Lori Edwards

 

 

--- On Tue, 5/23/17, Lori Edwards <lori_edwards@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> From: Lori Edwards <lori_edwards@yahoo.com>

> Subject: Fw: Question about fence construction permit and height code

> To: "Aldo Rodriguez" <arodriguez@cityofmolalla.com>

> Cc: "Brenda Reiner (Molalla)" <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>

> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 10:10 AM

> Hello

> again.  I'm just hoping you can let me know that you've received my

> email.  I can wait for the information but want to make sure it

> reached you.

> Thank

> you!

> Lori

> Edwards

>

>

>   

> ----- Forwarded

> Message -----

>  From: Lori Edwards

> <lori_edwards@yahoo.com>

>  To:

> "arodriguez@cityofmolalla.com"

> <arodriguez@cityofmolalla.com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday,

> May 16, 2017 10:13 AM

>  Subject: Re: Question

> about fence construction permit and height code

>   

> Hi

> there,

> I thought

> I'd check back about this.  We're a bit away from installing the fence

> so when you get some time, please let me know.

> Thank you,

> Lori

> Edwards580 Carter

> Lane

>

>

>

>   

> From: Gerald

> Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

>

> To: Lori

> Edwards <lori_edwards@yahoo.com>

> Cc: Aldo Rodriguez

> <arodriguez@cityofmolalla.com>; Brenda Reiner

> (Molalla) <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday,

> April 25, 2017 12:20 PM

>  Subject: RE: Question

> about fence construction permit and height code

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> #yiv7711282235 Hi Lori,  Aldo works with private property and

> planning issues and can answer your questions, but he is out

> sick today. He will hopefully be back in the next day or

> two. Thanks.  Regards,Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works

> DirectorCity of Molalla117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248

> |Molalla, OR  97038Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 

> 503.759.0218CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The

> information contained in this email message, including any

> attachments, is for the sole use of the intended

> recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged

> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or

> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended

> recipient and have received this communication in error,

> please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all

> copies of the original message. Thank you.  From: Lori Edwards

> [mailto:lori_edwards@yahoo.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:02

> PM

> To: Gerald Fisher

> <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

> Cc:

> Aldo Rodriguez <arodriguez@cityofmolalla.com>; Brenda

> Reiner (Molalla) <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>

> Subject: Re: Question about fence

> construction permit and height

> code  This is very helpful.  We

> do just want to make sure that our flag lot and shared

> driveway situation does not apply before we continue. 

> Right now, our view pulling into the shared driveway is

> blocked by a 6 foot fence that borders our property and 806

> Toliver Road and by a lean-to at the corner of the

> neighbors property.  The neighbors at 560 Carter Lane has

> guests, delivery drivers and pedestrians that enter Carter

> Lane and cannot be seen until we completely pull out into

> Carter Lane, and we also have a parking area right next to

> the fence.  Can you confirm that the height restriction

> does not apply under these circumstances?  We're

> careful when we pull out, but can't control what

> visitors do.  We also see that 560's visitors

> sometimes park and use the area next to the fence to back in

> and turn around when leaving.  This is fine with us,

> but we want to make sure we don't have a liability

> issue if something happened while they pull out from by

> that fence.    Thank

> you,  Lori

> Edwards

>  From: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

> To: Lori Edwards <lori_edwards@yahoo.com>

>

> Cc: Aldo Rodriguez <arodriguez@cityofmolalla.com>;

> Brenda Reiner (Molalla) <breiner@cityofmolalla.com>

> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 11:32 AM

> Subject: RE: Question about fence

> construction permit and height

> code  Hi

> Lori, Here

> is the code information you are looking

> for. 18.04.020 Vehicular access and

> circulation. O.    Vision Clearance. The

> minimum distance of a vision clearance area shall be 20

> feet. Where the angle of intersection between streets is

> less than 30 degrees, the distance shall be increased to 30

> feet. No visual obstruction (e.g., sign, structure, solid

> fence, or shrub vegetation) over 42 inches in height shall

> be placed in “vision clearance areas” on streets,

> driveways, alleys, or mid-block lanes where no traffic

> control stop sign or signal is provided. The minimum vision

> clearance area may be modified by the Public Works

> Director/City Engineer upon finding that more or less sight

> distance is required (i.e., due to traffic speeds, roadway

> alignment, etc.). This standard does not apply to light

> standards, utility poles, trees trunks and similar

> objects. The

> sight distance is measured from the curb on Toliver Road in

> your situation. You can be at 6 feet to within 20 feet of

> the curb then drop to 42 inches to provide sight distance

> for pedestrians, bicyclists, and vehicles approaching your

> driveway location. You have the option of moving the 6 foot

> restriction farther back than 20 feet if you choose to do so

> since the 20 foot distance is a minimum requirement. If you

> are wanting to verify your property line location then you

> will have to consult with a professional land surveyor

> licensed in Oregon. They are the only folks that can provide

> you with actual property line locations in the field. There

> are no permit requirements for a fence unless you exceed the

> height requirements. Aldo, our City Planner, can help you

> with that process if needed. He can be reached at

> 503.759.0219.  Brenda, our Senior Engineering Technician,

> can verify distance for transition up to a 6 foot tall fence

> if needed. She can be reached at 503.759.0243.  Thanks and

> have a good week. Regards,Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works

> DirectorCity of

> Molalla117 N

> Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 

> 97038Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 

> 503.759.0218CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The

> information contained in this email message, including any

> attachments, is for the sole use of the intended

> recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged

> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or

> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended

> recipient and have received this communication in error,

> please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all

> copies of the original message. Thank

> you. From: Lori Edwards [mailto:lori_edwards@yahoo.com]

>

> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 4:38

> PM

> To: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

> Subject: Question about fence

> construction permit and height

> code Hi there.  My husband and I

> at 580 Carter Lane are planning to build a fence to line

> the driveway and along the north side yard and have a few

> questions.   When I first purchased the

> house in 2010 I asked staff from the City of Molalla to

> come to make some fencing recommendations.  I'm not

> sure of the names of the employees that came out (I have a

> card around here somewhere!) but they told me that my

> west to east fence that meets the private lane is outside

> of code.  My property is one of two flag lots on Carter

> Lane, and the residents at 560 Carter Lane and I both have

> lengths of private driveway (Carter Lane) that meet the

> street at Toliver Road.  I was told that the east end of

> the fence that runs west to east that meets Carter

> Lane should be at a lower height twenty feet back so as not

> to obscure the view entering Carter Lane. 

>  I have been unable to locate

> this in code research.  It is possible that they were

> viewing Carter Lane as a city street and not a private

> driveway, thus the recommendation for the lower fence, but

> Carter Lane is a private driveway. 

>  I just need to know what the

> code actually is so we can modify the fence height if

> needed and keep the code in mind when replacing the

> fence.   I plan to also fence the

> line of the private drive that borders 806 Toliver Road and

> need to know the process for getting permits for

> this.  Also, we will need to have someone come out to

> determine the exact property line for the project(s).  This

> may already be on file from when Carter Lane was asphalted

> and the existing fence on the north edge was built but we

> need to know for certain before we

> start. Thank

> you, Lori Edwards

> 580 Carter

> Lane503-442-9570   

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