From: Dan Zinder
Sent: Fri Aug 03 14:17:38 2018
To: Andy Peters; Gerald Fisher
Cc: Adam Shultz; Brenda Reiner
Subject: RE: sewer and storm maintenance
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Yes – and if the survey is done electronically (excel) it’s an easy join.
Dan Zinder
503.759.0226
503.586.8094 (c)
From: Andy Peters [mailto:apeters@cityofmolalla.com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 2:16 PM
To: Dan Zinder ; Gerald Fisher
Cc: Adam Shultz ; Brenda Reiner
Subject: RE: sewer and storm maintenance
Dan, yes, we can track a Foreign key on the Short lists to GIS objects IDs. Then provide you with data in any format you like which you can backflush into GIS. This is the poor-man’s way to get a decent system fast, I think. I’ll work with you directly on it!
Andy Peters
City of Molalla
Public Works Operations Supervisor
(503) 829-6855 x220
Cell: 503-793-0507
117 N Molalla Ave
Molalla, OR 97038
From: Dan Zinder dzinder@cityofmolalla.com>
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 2:14 PM
To: Gerald Fisher gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>; Andy Peters apeters@cityofmolalla.com>
Cc: Adam Shultz ashultz@cityofmolalla.com>; Brenda Reiner breiner@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: RE: sewer and storm maintenance
We can probably at least fudge the GIS integration piece?
Dan Zinder
503.759.0226
503.586.8094 (c)
From: Gerald Fisher [mailto:gfisher@cityofmolalla.com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 2:10 PM
To: Andy Peters apeters@cityofmolalla.com>
Cc: Dan Zinder dzinder@cityofmolalla.com>; Adam Shultz ashultz@cityofmolalla.com>; Brenda Reiner breiner@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: RE: sewer and storm maintenance
I’m good with that program to start it up and get things running and documented. We can always adjust based on changing rules or best management practices. Things may be done more or less frequently based on performance. What do you all think?
Regards,
Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works Director
City of Molalla
117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038
Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 503.759.0218
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From: Andy Peters [mailto:apeters@cityofmolalla.com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 1:52 PM
To: Gerald Fisher gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>
Cc: Dan Zinder dzinder@cityofmolalla.com>; Adam Shultz ashultz@cityofmolalla.com>; Brenda Reiner breiner@cityofmolalla.com>
Subject: sewer and storm maintenance
Gerald,
Months ago you asked us to plan out routes for sewer and catch basin cleaning. I think your intent was to implement a solid CMOM program for Sanitary and Storm maintenance… which we will do. But before we decide how to implement such a thing (how systems, forms, schedules, equipment is set up) the first step is to decide what level of service you want to provide. The basic program recommended by EPA is usually to manage a database with a rating for every sewer line, denoting condition on a scale from 0-5 (0 being unserviceable), and cleaning/ TV inspection once every 5 years. That’s a pretty intense program and I doubt you will find any agency truly doing that without top notch ERP/GIS integration software behind the effort. But we can get darn close if we forgo the requirement to actually track the 0-5 rating in a database, and instead manage two short-lists: “sewers rated 0” which implies 6 month cleaning; “sewers rated 2” which implies 2 year cleaning; and assume all the rest are “sewers rated 5” until they are moved to a shortlist. We’ll also maintain a “Problem Lateral” list. This gets us the same information without the need for complex software, GIS integration, and data entry…which can be a nightmare. Then the service becomes:
***ROBOT SCHEUDLED MAINTENANCE***
Sanitary:
Storm:
Thoughts from anyone?
Andy Peters
City of Molalla
Public Works Operations Supervisor
(503) 829-6855 x220
Cell: 503-793-0507
117 N Molalla Ave
Molalla, OR 97038