RE: City Drainage Problem

From: Gerald Fisher

Sent: Tue May 14 08:40:42 2019

To: Seiffert, Wayne

Subject: RE: City Drainage Problem

Importance: Normal

Wayne,

What I am trying to determine is what they did with their storm through your plumbing permit process. They are required to connect to an underground drainage system that is conveyed to our storm in the street or they have to install a dry well system. Discharging out onto the ground is not allowed and as our contract Building Department I want to know what they submitted to you and what was approved. That way if they did change something from what was approved then we can make them correct it. Right now we don’t know what was approved and you are the holder of the records. I am asking for a copy of what you approved. We haven’t gotten to drainage law yet in this process.

Regards,

Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works Director

City of Molalla

117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038

Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 503.759.0218

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From: Seiffert, Wayne <waynesei@clackamas.us>

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:35 AM

To: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: RE: City Drainage Problem

This is a civil matter under Oregon drainage law. If the neighbor has directed storm water to his neighbors property, by law he will be required to abate the problem. The plumbing inspection can only cover what is done at the time of the inspection. Often a home owner will make changes after the fact that we have no control over. The current situation sounds like that is what has happened.

From: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 4:40 PM

To: Seiffert, Wayne <waynesei@clackamas.us>

Cc: Dan Zinder <dzinder@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: FW: City Drainage Problem

Hi Wayne,

I am trying to determine if the storm for 803 Toliver is connected to a drywell, lateral, or what. The neighbor to the north is complaining about discharge of water and flooding on to their property during rain events. Can you have someone let me know what type of system is set up for this property?? Thanks.

Regards,

Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works Director

City of Molalla

117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038

Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 503.759.0218

From: Gerald Fisher

Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 4:38 PM

To: 'Gabe Shrock' <shem42@gmail.com>

Subject: RE: City Drainage Problem

Hi Mr. Shrock.

We received an approval from Clackamas County on their inspection but did not receive any details on what they inspected or how the system is set up. We have sent a request for that information but have not heard anything back from the County. Will try again. Clackamas County is our contract building official and they are flooded right now with permits and requests. Please be patient while we try to get more information from them. Thanks.

Regards,

Gerald Fisher, P.E. | Public Works Director

City of Molalla

117 N Molalla Ave. | PO Box 248 |Molalla, OR 97038

Office: 503.829.6855 | Direct: 503.759.0218

From: Gabe Shrock <shem42@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 12:43 PM

To: Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com>

Subject: Re: City Drainage Problem

Mr. Fisher,

It has been almost a month since we last emailed and I have not heard anything from you. Is the City still checking on the situation? Someone did utility locates 3 weeks ago and I assumed it was the city, but I never heard anything. Could you give me an update?

Thanks,

Gabe Shrock

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:27 AM Gerald Fisher <gfisher@cityofmolalla.com> wrote:

Hi Mr. Shrock,

I'm away at a conference this week but will have my staff look into it. If the White's are not connected to a storm system then they are required to connect to a dry well system on their property. We will get back to you when we have confirmed what type of system they have have contacted them to resolve the issue. Thank you for contacting me and letting me know about your drainage issue.

Regards,

Gerald Fisher, Public Works Director

From: Gabe Shrock <shem42@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 3:49 PM

To: Gerald Fisher

Subject: City Drainage Problem

Dear Mr. Fisher,

My name is Gabe Shrock. I live in Molalla at 741 Trinity Court, in the Trinity Estates subdivision. I stopped by city hall last week to figure out how I should talk to and I was given your name. I believe you are aware of some of the problems the Trinity Estates HOA has had with the neighboring homeowners, Pete and Bev White. I am having a new issue and am hoping you or someone at the city would be able to help. The Whites have directed a lot of rain water from their backyard onto my property. I believe they have a sump pump in their backyard that pumps it onto mine. You can hear the pump turn on even when it is not raining and see a flow of water onto my property. As far as I understand city code, they are not allowed to pump water onto my property. Especially since their house is brand new and should follow all current city codes. It is to my understanding that the water must be dealt with on their own property. They should have it pumped into the storm drain system. During a rain storm, my driveway gets a lot of extra water and dirt washing onto it. They also added asphalt and bark chips to tract B (which is owned by the HOA), without getting permission, which created more flooding along my fence line. Now my water meter is 6" under water to the top of the concrete box during a rain storm. The Whites were asked about the drainage problem by the HOA and were unwilling to help solve the problem. Is there something the city can do to help? I have attached some pictures to show what I am talking about. You can see the trench that is created from the water flowing from their backyard into mine. The video shows water flowing into my yard when it is not even raining. I would be willing to meet someone out there and show what I am talking about or feel free to call me at 503-710-7610.

Sincerely,

Gabe Shrock

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